Carolin Kebekus Photo by Ben Knabe
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Carolin Kebekus: “Motherhood is in a league of its own”

"I think our entire society is based on women taking on the bulk of care work—without complaining."

If anyone knows what it feels like to be a mother—navigating the highs of joy, the lows of sleep deprivation, and a career in the spotlight—it’s Carolin Kebekus. The comedian and host, who usually makes a splash with sharp one-liners about politics, the church, and sexism, turns her attention to something very personal in her bestseller “8,000 Ways to Fail as a Mother”: her life as a mother. 

In an interview with pme, she explains why reality “caught her off guard” after giving birth, why mothers are much quicker to be labeled “bad” while fathers are labeled “good”—and why humor, for her, isn’t just a way to smile things away, but a survival strategy. Carolin Kebekus will be a speaker at Health Day 2026 in October.

Interview: Sarah Raupach, Editor: Christin Müller, Photo: Ben Knabe

Your book is called *8,000 Ways to Fail as a Mother*. When did you realize you wanted to write a book about this?

Carolin Kebekus: While writing my new stage show, I realized I had an insane amount of material—pregnancy, childbirth, the postpartum period, everything. It would easily have been enough for a four- or five-hour show, but you can never fit all of that onto the stage.

Even during my pregnancy, I realized just how many rules you suddenly have to follow—as a pregnant woman, as a mother, and as a woman in general. And how incredibly quickly you’re labeled a “bad mother.” And how incredibly quickly you’re labeled a “good father.” That really surprised me.

The idea for the book came to me pretty quickly. I called the publisher, and they immediately got the vibe and were on board right away.

How much of Carolin Kebekus is in this book—and where did you exaggerate?

When I perform my routine about the postpartum period on stage, I always say at the end: “For everyone who’s currently pregnant—this is comedy; I’m exaggerating.” And afterwards, all the moms are rolling with laughter because they know exactly: That’s not exaggerated at all; I just put it out there exactly as it is. Maybe I’ve exaggerated a little here and there—it is comedy, after all—but every point is true. And it’s also true that breastfeeding is backbreaking work. 

I think I’ve worked through a lot in this book. I had to somehow come to terms with the person I’ve become: sleep deprivation, constant overstimulation, always being touched, always on call, not a single second to myself anymore.

Until then, I was a different person. Whenever I wanted to accomplish something, I would ask myself: How do I do this? Where can I learn it? Where can I buy it? What do I need to do? And suddenly, my only option was to ask for help. It was incredibly hard for me to say, “I can’t do this anymore.” But that’s exactly what isn’t expected of mothers. A mother can always do it. A mother doesn’t say, “I can’t do this anymore.”

I think our entire society is based on the fact that women take on the bulk of care work—without complaining and without getting paid for it.

Many fathers see themselves as “modern fathers,” yet at the same time, many mothers complain about the invisible work that goes on behind the scenes. Where do you see this tension?

The classic scenario is: You drop the kid off, and your partner says, “Why don’t you just lie down for half an hour?” That could drive me up the wall. Yes, I could lie down—but then who’s going to unload the dishwasher, who’s going to do the laundry? Who’s going to schedule the U7 appointment, who’s going to buy new rain boots? When else am I supposed to do that if not now, when the child is asleep or out somewhere else?

There is just an incredible amount that goes unnoticed.

But I know I’m partly to blame, too. I often try to do everything myself to make sure it’s “done right.” Then I find it hard to say, “Why don’t you pack the kid’s bag, and I’ll just relax while you do it.” And at the same time, I think, “Are you really packing everything?”

Many modern fathers are different from what they were when I was growing up. Back then, spending time with Dad—going to the hardware store, for example—was considered quality time. Today, I know many wonderful fathers who are very involved with their children. But the logistics—who keeps track of appointments and birthdays, and who maintains the social network?—often still fall to the mothers.

When did you realize: This isn't just a lot; it's a structural problem?

Anyone who has been thinking about gender equality and feminism for a while knows this: there is a fundamental injustice—in care work, in pay, everywhere. I’ve been doing comedy about women’s issues, misogyny, and women’s rights for years, and at some point I thought, “I’ve already covered everything.”

Then I became a mother and realized: That was just the tip of the iceberg. Motherhood is in a league of its own.

I know how privileged I am. I have money; I can buy my child clothes, toys, educational resources, and childcare. I have a childcare center where my child eats breakfast and lunch—I used to underestimate how much of a burden that takes off my shoulders.

How does this constant pressure affect your mental health and that of those around you?

That's not healthy. And it's hard to put into words. It's okay among women, but there's still a sense of shame in admitting that you can't do it.

When I say, “I have a childcare center, I have a nanny, I work—and I’m still completely exhausted,” I immediately think of my friend with four kids, who might not be working. Do I have the right to complain if she manages to get by “somehow”—or at least makes it look that way?

We’ve internalized the idea that women can endure anything. We saw this in our mothers and grandmothers. The whole of society is built on women enduring things without complaining.
And when a woman does say, “I can’t take it anymore” or gets angry, that female anger is perceived very differently. Then you quickly think: “Am I too weak? Shouldn’t I be able to handle this?”

When you think about everything you’ve done in a day and how much sleep you’ve actually gotten, it’s clear that you’re overwhelmed. But the image I have of myself is: “I can handle all of this. I’m the person everyone says, ‘Caro, how do you actually manage to do all that?’” And sometimes I think: I don’t.

What can humor achieve when it comes to “mental load and psychological stress” that a purely serious statement cannot?

When you tackle a serious topic with humor, you always have to get right to the heart of the matter: What is the issue here? What is so absurd about the situation?

When it comes to misogyny, for example, there are many absurd moments. When people laugh at the right moments, you can tell they’ve understood what it’s all about—it’s boiled down to the essentials.

At my last show, there were many mothers in the audience who felt a strong connection to so many of the topics discussed. And everyone else in the room was moved by our shared laughter. Humor eases tension, breaks down barriers, and relieves frustration.

During my postpartum period, I exchanged photos every day with a friend who had also just had a baby—of everything that went wrong. We sent each other the ugliest baby photos and laughed ourselves silly—C-section scars and all. Humor really helped.

What would you say to someone who’s currently overwhelmed by mental load and feels completely alone with their “8,000 mistakes”?

Maybe I need to lower my expectations a bit. At first, I had a very clear picture of myself as a mother—who I am and everything I can accomplish. At some point, I let go of that image. 

Sometimes it’s okay to just let things be. The best days are the ones when you don’t have any plans, don’t have to be anywhere, and can just spend time with your child. Without feeling like you have to serve lunch on time or cook it yourself. Then you can just go to the zoo and eat french fries.

And then I’d say: reach out for help. Build a network with other moms or family members. Sometimes you have to directly ask the people you’d like to have a closer relationship with your child: “Would you be interested in spending a day with the kids once a week?” Often, support comes from a source you least expect.

And then you should definitely let your partner know how you feel. I don’t think most fathers would say, “Don’t be such a baby!” If you sit down together and figure out what you can handle and what you can’t, you can divide up the tasks more effectively. But then you actually have to hand them over—that’s often the hardest part.

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5 tips on how to get through the day with little sleep

We all experience nights when we don't get enough sleep. The next day we are exhausted, listless and less productive. Here are five good tips on how to get through a tired day and which pitfalls to avoid.

Facts about sleep

    • A third of adults in Germany state that they regularly or occasionally do not sleep well.

    • Lack of sleep has a similar effect to alcohol - among other things, it restricts attention and concentration, and therefore also judgment.

    • Around 20 percent of fatal accidents in Germany are caused by fatigue.


Strategies against fatigue: 5 tips


1. hurry up and wait


You may want to compensate for your tiredness with a lot of speed - but right now it is important to keep a calm and level-headed pace. Even if it sounds unusual, meditation can give you a little energy boost.



2. the right setting


On tired days, it is particularly important that the surroundings are as distracting as possible and that you feel comfortable. 

This can help:


  • Ensure good lighting, if possible with natural light.

  • Make sure the room temperature is comfortable - neither too warm nor too cold (approx. 20 - 24 degrees Celsius).

  • Ventilate regularly, because sufficient oxygen is essential for concentration and productivity.
  • Reduce distractions by tidying up loose objects and documents at your workstation if necessary.

3. variety and activation


Make sure you keep moving and provide variety. For example, work standing up from time to time or change places. You can have light and healthy snacks such as nuts or apple slices as a small energy boost.


Tip: Chewing gum stimulates blood flow to the brain and therefore promotes concentration. A little massage on your face or earlobes can also do you good.



4. active breaks


If you work sitting down, get up during your break and leave your desk. A few stretching exercises work wonders to restore your energy and prevent tension. 

Always good for a little energy boost: take a short walk out into the fresh air or have a quick chat with colleagues.



5. stay hydrated


The body can only function properly if it is well hydrated. Keep yourself well hydrated throughout the day, especially in the form of water. 

Herbal teas without added caffeine provide variety. A few splashes of cold water on the face or wrists will also help you feel fresher.



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This helps with work: clear time management, small rewards


If possible, take a strategic approach to planning your tasks, even on tired days.

At the beginning of the day, get an overview of everything that needs to be done and set realistic goals . Determine your priorities and schedule strenuous tasks into your most productive time slots.

Also define clear working hours and break times.


Tip: Pomodoro technique - for anyone who likes to procrastinate

The Pomodoro technique helps to structure the day: This involves working in a concentrated manner for 25 minutes and then taking a five-minute break. After four such blocks of time, take a longer break of around 20 minutes.


 

Small rewards can also help on tired days. Think about what you can do to give yourself a little treat in between.



Caution, trap: these "aids" are counterproductive


Many popular weapons against fatigue satisfy a momentary need, but make it even harder to get through the day.


1. too much coffee


Too much caffeine can make you jittery and disrupt your sleep rhythm. Therefore, drink a maximum of two cups before lunch and stick to caffeine-free drinks for the rest of the day.


2. sitting for too long


When we are tired, we want to be as comfortable as possible. But sitting for long periods without variety usually makes us even more tired and also leads to tension.



3. heavy food


On tired days, fatty, sweet and salty foods are particularly tempting, as our body recognizes calorie-rich foods as quick sources of energy. However, the short-term sugar high is usually followed by an energy low.



A good end to a tired day


Finally done, the working day is over! The way you spend the evening sets the course for the next day. Of course, you can treat yourself to a series or a social media session, but set yourself a time limit. 

You should also continue to avoid caffeinated drinks and go to bed at your usual time despite being tired in order to return to a healthy sleep rhythm.